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Inner Game -> Understanding -> Robert Cialdini Class -> Weeks 1-3 -> Relating to Pick-Up

Relating to Pick-Up

by Mimicker, originally posted in the FastSeduction.com Archives

Okay, I’ll give you examples of how I’ve related this to pick-up, and if anyone has any other examples, I’d be interested in hearing them.


>People are more willing to
>believe people who they THINK
>are an authority, or high
>status... than someone of low
>status... REGARDLESS of the
>actual information they
>present.

There’s a couple ways this relates to pick-up:

This is one explanation for guru worshipping here on mASF, and even a reminder to stay objective while reading “high status PUA’s” posts. Sub-par posts by guru’s will get praise because people will basically take anything they say 100% without questioning it.

You can also replace “high status” with “high social status.” If you’re perceived by girls as having high social status, they will see you as an authority concerning social situations, which is damn good for laying a girl. Even if you're totally BSing them, they'll still believe you. Now, this doesn’t explain HOW to get high status, that’s still up to you.


>He explained that even though
>he asked the question “Why are
>we so social?,” social
>psychologists wouldn’t
>approach the question this
>way. Social psychologists
>don’t ask “why?” as a first
>question. They would rephrase
>the question to “What factors
>increase and decrease our
>desire to be social?” Then
>once they found the factors
>after EXPERIMENTING, they
>would at the end ask “why is
>it this way?” But asking
>“why?” as your first question
>is ineffective without any
>evidence to examine.

This is about asking the wrong questions about pick-up when you’re a newbie and don’t have much experience yet. Or hell, it could probably help you throughout your pick-up career.

Anyways, instead a asking question like “why does a girl become attracted to a guy?”, and then trying to figure out the answer without having much experience… which will take you a long time and only lead to over-analyzing...

Ask yourself questions like “what factors increase and decrease a girl’s attraction to a guy?” and then go out into the field and experiment with certain factors… and find out what factors attract a girl. Then, after you’ve found what works, you can try to think of explanation for why girls are attracted to the factors you’ve found.


>“We often see what we expect
>to see, not what is really
>there.”

This is SOOOOOOOOOO fucking important. This goes way beyond pick-up. This relates to being successful in life, being happy, being healthy… pretty much everything.

But how it relates to pick-up is huge as well:

Let’s talk about ijjjji’s recent advocation on thinking “chicks dig me.”

Let’s take two guys. One guy thinks “chicks DIG me” and the other thinks “chicks DON’T dig me.”

Let’s say they approach a girl, and get the SAME EXACT reactions from the girl. They will interpret the reactions in completely different ways based on their perception.

Some examples:

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Thought processes of guy who thinks “chicks DON’T dig me:”

Girl does something NEUTRAL, like asking for a light ----> “oh, she must really just want a light. She’s not interested in me”

Girl does something NEGATIVE, like insaults him ---> “wow, she really hates me, why don’t girls like me?”

Girl does something POSITIVE, like complements him ---> “oh, she’s probably just being nice. She isn’t really interested.”

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Thought processes of guy who thinks “chicks DIG me.”

Girl does something NEUTRAL, like asking for a light --> “Hah, she opened ME and used a lighter as an excuse. She must really want me bad.”

Girl does something NEGATIVE, like insaults him -----> “Oh, this chick is playing hard to get and thinks she has to tease me to attract me.”

Girl does something POSITIVE, like complements him ---> “So… this girl is trying to butter me up, and thinks COMPLEMENTING me will get her into my PANTS.”

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So even though they get the same reactions from girls, they will perceive it completely different. This will effect the pick-up big time.

Guy who thinks “chicks DON’T dig me” will probably eject soon, because he thinks the girl doesn’t like him and he doesn't have a chance. And even if he does stay and talk to the girl, he probably won’t react well to what she does, because he’s interpreting everything in a fucked up way.

Guy who thinks “chicks DIG me” will definitely stay in-set, since he thinks the girl wants him. He'll react to everything in a good/positive way. Soon, he’ll start to escalate in whatever way he feels like it. He will most likely end up sex’ing the girl.


>When we expect for something
>to become true, and it does
>(because we are expecting it),
>it is called a
>“self-fulfilling prophecy.”
>And most of the time we do
>receive exactly what we are
>expecting to receive.

See with my last example how the guy who thought “chicks DON’T dig me” fulfilled his prophecy just by his perception? It wasn’t the girl's reactions that rejected him, it was his perception of her reactions that did. HE rejected HIMSELF. Two guys can get the same reactions from girls, and interpret it in two completely different ways. Which guy are you going to be?

I’m going to type this out one more time, this is the most important part of the post:

“We often see what we expect to see, not what is really there.”

Mimicker

This article was originally posted on FastSeduction.com. You may find more articles by Mimicker in the Archive Search or the Poster Zip Archives.

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