Tyler Durden talks about the secret world of the player.
Many guys will dislike this, because it implies that women are sluts and untrustworthy. Well, I can only speak from my experience and report back what I’ve seen. I’m also posting in a semi-satirical tone – I haven’t gone off the deepend….. yet…
A secret society exists. Around 52% of people on this earth are a part of it.
Of that 52%, 50% are women, 2% are men.
Of that 2%, 1% of those men are gay, the other 1% are players.
What I’m talking about is the sex secret society – and you are either *IN* or *OUT*.
SOME RULES OF THE SECRET SOCIETY:
1) Don’t talk about the secret society.
2) The priority of the secret society is to have perpetually good emotions in all members.
3) Create shrowds around the secret society, like “all men are dogs”. Hide the truth that women are far more likely to cheat than men.
4) If you are part of the secret society, you will never be denied anything at any point.
5) If you are not part of the secret society, you will scrap and beg for everything you get.
6) Communication in the secret society is less often verbal, and more often spoken through bodylanguage subcommunications, and verbal subcommunications that would only make sense to members. Any other way, and the 48% of men would pick up on it, and it would no longer be a secret.
7) At the first sign that someone who is not part of the secret society is possibly trying to pretend that he is, barate him with both love-rhetoric, and accusations of chauvanism and nit-witted-ness.
It’s OK to cheat on someone who is not a part of the secret society, so long as it is for the purpose of fulfilling the needs of someone who is, or if it to fulfill your own needs and it is with someone who is a part of the secret society. Sleeping with a rare guy from the secret society is no worse than grinding with a girlfriend at a club and making out with her. “It doesn’t count”.
9) Nobody judges eachother in the secret society. There is no such thing as a slut. A slut is only as slutty as people who are NOT in the secret society are aware of.
10) Secret society members COME FIRST. If someone in the society is not having fun with an interaction, it is cut off. Conversely, if a secret society male is with a non-secret-society male, and a secret society female (all females) decides she wants sex from the secret society male, the friend of the female may have sex with the non-secret-society male, because EVERYONE in the interaction must feel good. However, if the non-secret-society male is blowing himself out so badly that he makes the female member feel very bad emotions, then the secret-society-male must face the consequences of bringing negative emotions into the equation, and lose out on his privilege for sex in that interaction, until he ditches the non-secret-society male. Bear minimum requirements for non-secret-society males being grandfathered in with the male member, is that he not qualify himself or make anyone feel uncomfortable. Failing to meet those requirements, both are blown out.
WHAT IS THE SECRET SOCIETY?
Women are repressed by men, and so must look out for themselves. They will take care of:
1) Their own sexual needs.
2) The sexual needs of anyone in the secret society.
3) The sexual needs of the few males who make the secret society possible (“players”).
The secret society is what allows women to appear wholesome and allows them to screen for a long term provider/emotionaltampon.
Women hold off to find the perfect boyfriend, while sleeping with a guy who is likely sleeping with all of their friends, and their friends friends.
They also fuck their gay boyfriends or jerk them off or give them head. They’re part of the secret society too, so they can’t be left out.
EYE WITNESS ACCOUNTS FROM SECRET SOCIETY INSIDERS (based on dozens of interviews I did over the summer, with girls in London England, as well as some from my own experience as a player):
1) If you tell a girl that you’re gay, and that you want to “see what it feels like to be with a girl”, she’ll sleep with you. She won’t insist on using a condom either, unless you do. You’re part of the secret society, where condoms aren’t necessary because they are logical entities and not emotionally relevant.
2) If you subcommunicate that you are a part of the secret society, and tell the friend of your target “I’m really lonely. My girlfriend cheated on me, and I need to re-validate myself tonight”, she’ll tell her friend to fuck you. Her friend will realize from this that you are a part of the secret society, and she’ll fuck you. Moreover, if the friend refuses, the ugly girl will offer you a blowjob to help you out.
3) If you manage to verbally subcommunicate that you are a member (its still subcommunication, because the verbal ways you communicate it aren’t direct at all), the secret society members will gladly tell you all about their sexual exploits and adventures. As soon as you subcommunicate that you desire romance, she will immediately retract all of her previous statements (and she’ll look completely congruent doing so), and downplay them that it was something she did just one time and that she’s looking for a relationship.PUA: “I love to go out and hook up. I hate it when girls try to run my life”.. HB: “Me too.. I hooked up with guys all last year.. My boyfriend tried to control me, but I do what I want.. My girlfriends all do it too.”PUA: “Really? Cause to be honest, I’ve always felt like I’m a romantic guy.. And girls always cheat on me.. I want to find a girl who won’t cheat.”HB: “I would never cheat. Guys are dogs. I’m always loyal.”PUA: “But didn’t you say…”HB: “No, I said nothing.”PUA: “No, you said that you don’t let your boyfriend control you and you do what you want.”HB: “No, I didn’t mean that. I’m not a slut. I have no idea what you’re talking about, I didn’t say that.”
4) If you are a member, and say that you are really lonely and you need someone to snuggle and makeout with, all members of the secret society will agree to do so with you. If you are a girl, you have privilege to snuggle and kiss and sleep in the same bed as all other girls. If you are gay, you can do the same. If it escalates to sex, its an accident and does not count. If you’re a player, and you make girls around you emotional, and the friends are all in good emotions about it, they sleep with you. No one is a slut in the secret society, because the secret society does not judge.
5) If a group of girls living together find a guy who is in the secret society, they will all fuck him. They’ll recommend him as an honourary secret society member, and enjoy him. Meanwhile they may be in relationships with non-secret society members that they’ve fallen in love with, however this is not an issue because nobody in the secret society judges and sex with people in the secret society does not count. If you are a secret society member now, but in the past enjoyed a romantic relationship, what you may not realize is the part that was left out of the romance novel story (due to rules no1&2 of the secret society code), which was that after you dropped her off your romantic star watching, a secret society member came by and fucked the shit out of her without a condom and gave her the money shot all over her face.
6) If a secret society male has a non member male friend, the friend of the girl who wants sex from the male member will have sex with the non-member even if she doesn’t like him. However, rules state that if if the non-member is “creepy/scary” (kinos too much, leans in too much, asks dumb questions, tries too hard to impress, overqualifies), then the male member will be expected to return either alone or with another male member. Also, the male members must remember that positive emotions are always priority, and if he is alone he must still maintain the positive emotions of the female member who will not be getting sex, secret society rules not to be breached. Number 1 rule of the secret society, outside of not talking about it, is that EVERYONE maintains GOOD emotions.
THE UNDERLYING MISUNDERSTOOD TRUTH OF THE SECRET SOCIETY:
The 49% of men who live outside of the secret society don’t understand the mental model of attraction of people who are in the secret society.
Men view attraction in their MALE MENTAL MODELS. They believe that attraction is “sexual aggression”. They understand attraction as having a physical urge to have sex, and then mentally deciding that you will go after it.
They try to seduce women by touching and grabbing them, and getting them very horny. They try to seduce them in the SAME WAY that a woman would do well seducing THEM. They try to seduce them as if they were seducing a GUY. This sometimes works, and the propaganda is spread – “this is how to get chicks”.
Secret society members will not fill them in, due to breach of the code.
What the secret society members are not telling you, is that they understand that most sex occurs when women are not sexually AGGRESSIVE, but sexually RECEPTIVE.
They understand that for women to be ready for sex, they need not feel horny, they need only feel EMOTIONAL.
They understand that women are not logical, and that they are emotional. They understand that for women sex is not a big deal at all, and that its their LOGIC that puts the breaks on it.
They understand that most women are afraid of sex because they lack TRUST, and because their LOGIC is putting on the breaks.
They disarm logic by making the women EMOTIONAL, so that their LOGIC (which is the BREAKS of emotion) becomes disarmed, and at the same time maintain TRUST, so that the emotions generated won’t be interfered with.
Then they simply have sex, because although the women are not WANTING sex, they are too EMOTIONAL to DECLINE sex. Then, once they BEGIN to have a physical interaction, the women become horny and sexually aggressive as a result, and sex begins.
(NOTE: This is why girls must COCKBLOCK for eachother. Because they know that clubs are emotionally charged environments, and that it wouldn’t take much for a guy to use her resulting sexual receptiveness to lay her. The guy may not be a guy that the girl would lay normally, were she feeling more logical, so the girls must look out for eachother. Guys don’t need to do this because firstly, they will not be judged for sleeping around (no logic), secondly, they are sexually aggressive – not receptive – so their decisions will not be regretted later usually, and thirdly, because they do not need trust because they are not usually in any physical danger).
They also understand that value + trust + attraction = sex (rough lazy model).
Value = being someone in the secret society (it can also be SO many other things, but being a member can in some cases be sufficient)
Trust = not telegraphing interest
Attraction = increasing her buying temperature by making her emotional (emotionally aroused, not necessarily physically aroused.. the former will cause her to be too illogical to prevent you from causing the latter, when she’s ready)
Don’t tell anyone about this. All knowledge will be denied and you will be ridiculed.
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50% of %52 is not 50%.
He means that:
The “Secret Society” is 52% of the population. As in all of the women, and a tiny percentage of men. 4% of the men (2% total pop) to be exact.
Don’t be such a pedantic nerd.
ok ive been part of the community for 2 years now and newcomers let me ENSURE you taht what is been “sold” here, a paradise exclusive for members IS TOTAL FUCKING BULLSHIT.
THere is no “secret society” only poorly confident males who CANNOT LIVE LIFE WITHOUT THE FEELING OF BEING SPECIAL AND UNIQUE.
The study of social dynamics IS good. The reflexion about sexuality is worth it. BUT THE BULLSHIT OF SUPERIORITY OF “% SECRET SOCIETY IS ONLY TO GLUE IN WEAK PEOPLE SO IT COMPENSATES FOR THEIR USUAL GROUND LOW SELF ESTEEM
And these people selling you this bullshit are laughing there asses out buying useless stuff with your hard earned cash.
THERE IS NO SECRET KEY, THERE IS NO GLOBAL SOLUTION!
LIFE IS WAHT IT IS AND LIFE WILL ALWAYS BE THE SAME’ WITH IT’S UP AND DOWN. THESE GUYS CAN’T GET YOU PARADISE!!!!
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Everybody has their own ways of thinking.. If it’s working for some of them : fine !! Everybody is happy their own way! Don’t we say that life’s goal is to be happy ?!
to be happy to be fulfilled but if you never get laid from hott girls how can you be happy? I think you are in denial because you do not get girls.
that is why one guy will bang a bunch of hott girls and all the nice guys these girls go to the club with get nothing, this is so true!!!
Tantra (Sanskrit: तन्त्र , Odia: ତନ୍ତ୍ର”loom, warp”; hence “principle, system, doctrine”, from the two root words tanoti “stretch, extend”, and trayati “liberation”), anglicised tantricism or tantrism or tantram, refers to esoteric schools of Hinduism and Buddhism and to the scriptures (called “Tantras”) commonly identified with the worship of Shakti.[1] Tantra deals primarily with spiritual practices and ritual forms of worship that aim at liberation from ignorance and rebirth,[1] the universe being regarded as the divine play of Shakti and Shiva.[1] In “left-handed” Tantra (Vamachara), ritual sexual intercourse is employed as a way of entering into the underlying processes and structure of the universe.[2]
Tantrism originated in the early centuries CE and developed into a fully articulated tradition by the end of the Gupta period. It has influenced the Hindu, Sikh, Bön, Buddhist, and Jain religious traditions and spread with Buddhism to East Asia and Southeast Asia.
Wow, this is just pure bullshit, obviously written from a man who has absolutely no idea what the fuck he is talking about.
It’s puerile, useless drivel, concocted from an over-imaginative, inexperienced and some might say deluded mind.
Life isn’t this cut and dry or black and white. There is no ‘secret society’ of people fucking their brains out behind closed doors, having massive unprotected group sex and circle jerks around horny, animalistic females. This is the stuff of porn, not real life.
Women cheat about as much as men, but like so many things in life not all women cheat and not all men cheat. Some women are in committed relationships with men that are just as committed as they are. Some people have high self-esteem and some low. Some women have high sex drives and some low. Some women will fuck 3 dudes in one night and some wait for relationships, some wait for MARRIAGE. Some dudes do too. Women (and men) cockblock for many different reasons: jealousy, fear, abandonment, whatever.
And the guy who is getting to bang all three girls who live together? There could me any myriad of reasons for this. He could be a stallion, have a 10″ dick, be really good looking, or they could all be insecure sluts.
Some ‘hot’ women have really low self esteem and/or are cunts and some ‘hot’ men are retarded
This is the fact that these infantile, idiotic ‘pick-up artists’ fail to grasp.
Different strokes move the world. Wake up to it.
Lose your need to control and manipulate other people into doing what you want. It’s never going to happen. Instead of trying to endlessly figure out and expose absurd generalizations out of this wonderful rainbow we call existence, start by taking a deep, long, hard and empathetic look at yourself.
You might not like what you see. Stop trying to solve life and start living it.
I read this like 4 years ago when I was in high school and my jaw dropped… “HOLY SHIT THERE’S LIKE A SEX CONSPIRACY MAAAAAN!!”
I took it too seriously. But after reading it again, I must say, Tyler brings up some really good points. I want to elaborate on the fact that I think a majority of it is bullshit, but he even says in the beginning that it’s written in a semi-satirical tone.
Lets face it… Women are fucking genius liars. I know women who have full fledged families who are sleeping behind their husbands backs, and you would never guess it observing her around the family. To her, IT JUST DOESNT COUNT.
That’s the underlying theme i got from this. When it comes to sex.. It’s not logical to women. If you could flip that switch she’ll want to CONCEIVE OF YOUR CHILD. These are very powerful biological urges. All social norms and values go out the window when these urges are activated.
Remember guys ATTRACTION IS NOT A CHOICE
Patrick: Bang on (so-to-speak) Attraction is definitely not a choice, and women who seem like the most boring,goody-two-shoes, are doing stuff to PUAs that their BFs/husbands could only fantasize about.
John: Wash out your mouth with soap. Being rude to people just makes people dislike you, and turns them off from hearing what you are trying to communicate. Also, I can only say that it’s obvious you’ve never known Owen. I have, and in terms of doing crazy-ass sex escapades that actually are the stuff of porn fantasies, yes, he’s been there, done that. Seen it with my own eyes, more importantly *Done* it with my own . . . well, nuff said.
You can get technical about what’s actually going on when chicks do sex that ‘doesn’t count’ with Alphas/PUAs. In fact Mark Cunningham does exactly that in his infamous book Scoring With Married Women. You can learn a lot more from MC’s book about how to actually make the phenomenon work for you than you do from TDs post from mASF above. He does take a sort of semi-serious approach, using languaging from The Fight Club, and exaggerating by including all women in the candidate pool, but his underlying message is dead serious: if you’re not aware of the fact that there are guys out there who women hook up naturally with, no strings attached, you’re walking around with your Eyes Wide Shut. Open up your mind, probe for the secrets behind people’s sexuality, and a whole new world, that has been operating parallel to your conventional one, will open up to you. And yes, the reference to the movie title was intentional.
I woulve called bullshit on this article 2 years ago… But then I entered the community and slept with about 3 girls who had boyfriends, acting completely un remorseful about it… The article might be exagerated, but there is truth behind these words….
LOL.
And out of how many approaches? Mystery himself has a 3% success ratio his entire career. As reported from Aaron Sleazy.
John says “Life isn’t this cut and dry or black and white. There is no ‘secret society’ of people fucking their brains out behind closed doors, having massive unprotected group sex and circle jerks around horny, animalistic females. This is the stuff of porn, not real life.”
For the most part you are right john, but there are some mistakes in your statement. First: YES, there are crazy things going on behind closed doors and NO you haven’t seen or heard of it b/c you are not a member.
Second: NO, it’s not a big steamy circle jerk of guys around women. That will indeed turn 99% of women off (probally more). It’s a heavily dominated female group with a few guys sprinkled in. You have the idea right but the girl/guy ratio backwards.
My own understanding on this is that people flown into this “act” not for the sake of fun or emotional satisfaction, but it is linked up with ‘unseen and unknown forces’, that want to lead men & women into hell fire. It has no financial attraction, so I wonder why people are traped-in.
Anyone who wrote a comment disagreeing or dismissing this post has never interacted socially with a hot girl as an equal. They have never dated a socially high-status woman. I would add the proviso, however, that this is the society of HOT GIRLS. It is not 52% of the population. It is lower. It includes all women who are attractive enough to live how they want to, minus the ones who have been culturally programmed to suppress it. Definitely smaller than 52%.
52% of all statistics are made on the spot.
On, and what else, what else…. you are not Tyler, you don’t get to talk about statistics and interpreting them. Word of god and all…
The calculations are false. It assumes that the world population, (100%, or 6 billions) is composed of 52% female and 48% male. Where is the proof of that? Doubt there is a census proving these numbers.
Second.
If out of 52%, 50% are woman and 2% are men. 1% is the total amount of the gay men on 6 billions people? Really? There was a census to repertory the amount of gay men on the planet? What about the gay men that are NOT in the secret society (and boy do I know them!)??? Where are they accounted for?
So, if all the woman of the population are in the secret club, how is it my grandma didn’t get laid or didn’t suck the random next door’s guy cock despite being widowed for over 25 years? Same thing for my mother and… most of the ugly girls.
As CTR above stated, if the 52% is only the hot girls, where are the ugly girls in the statistics? Perhaps Tyler meant that of 100% of the BEAUTIFUL people of the planet (but he didn’t write it down though?) 52% are hot women.
And how do CTR know about the society of hot girls? And what is the objective definition of hot girl as in “interacted with a hot girl as an equal”? Being a random tourist in France, asking a hot girl for directions would be interacting with her as an equal, human being. Yet I could not have laid her for various reasons. Marriage, not my type beside being hot…
Proof Pickup artist stuff makes no sense.
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great philosophical post. though I’d prefer some parts more clarified.. “using a condom is rational and therefore not necessary in the society” <— What the fuck…
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